The Resume Experiment (5 of 5) The Wrap Up

The Resume Experiment (5 of 5) â€" The Wrap Up Im trying to figure out how to wrap something like this up! I feel there are so many things that are either unsaid or ignored since we are focusing on one tiny little aspect of career management. So Ill include some brief thoughts here and then see where the comments go. Formatting is important. But dont waste a ton of time on getting it just right. I see that Carl and Louise agree that formatting is not the silver bullet. And my previous comment was, just make sure that it isnt a distraction. Dan Johnson wrote to me yesterday: I think so highly of my finished work my resume and often fail to think of it from a recruiters perspective. Content is critical. How do you wordsmith your resume just right so that it gets the point across in just a few seconds? Most people think they are either (a) really good at describing themselves and their acheivements, or (b) not into the self-promotion fluff stuff. First impressions are unavoidable. Play by the rules. Or dont. I didnt and I didnt get the interviews I needed! So because I chose to not learn what I should have I sacrificed weeks months of income. And the stress built. And the self-doubt built. And the discouragement built. Should you get a resume writer? Obviously it depends on your personal situation. If I could turn back time I would have engaged a writer right away. Here are some thoughts on the subject: In all fairness, the responses from the resume experts were based on bare-bones information. In fact, I had one reply back and say that she couldnt even respond without having an interview with John Doe! And Louise Kursmark sent me a worksheet for John Doe to fill out, which she would follow up with a consultation. Note that the process involved is deeper than pulling out a list of action words and then going to town: Barbara Safani priceless from her most recent post: If you would like to have your own resume critiqued, without having the content on full view to everyone, email me for a free resume assessment (my style is much more like Paula Abdul and I will tell you what is working in your current resume as well as what can be improved). Most people don’t understand the value of hiring a writer†¦ many think that all the writer does is edit the document, fix the grammar, and make it look pretty. Having the recruiter’s â€Å"seal of approval† will bring credibility to the writer’s strategy. But if you have 5 different resumes for the same person and 5 different recruiters reviewing them, you might get 6 different opinions†¦This is the fuzziness of resume writing and this is where things might get confusing. Your readers will be left asking†¦so which way is â€Å"right†Ã¢â‚¬ ¦the better message is that there’s no right on wrong way per say, but there are different strategies job seekers can use to gain the attention of the hiring manager. Brad Attig I’m going to try to help you cut though all the fog and give you some guidelines that I would recommend you consider. Remember that every time someone tells you to turn right, someone else will be there to tell you to turn left, or worse, stop, go, backup†¦.. Wendy Terwelp Writing a resume is more than filling in blanks on a template. The way I write a resume includes an in-depth interview (a minimum of 60 minutes) with the job seeker, a prep guide, then the rewrite (or completely new from scratch) with usually 2 drafts. Our process for resume development and strategy takes many hours to produce. We don’t just â€Å"type up a resume† based on the original as often the original document is missing tons of information. That’s why the interview process with the job seeker is crucial. We help candidates see their rock star qualities, what they bring to the table for a potential employer by asking lots of questions. Why? A rà ©sumà ©Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s first goal is to help a candidate get in the door for an interview. As a former recruiter and current member of staffing associations, I know what employers look for in top candidates – and I know how to interview a candidate to get the achievements, skills, and qualities necessary for a g reat resume. Templates just don’t cut it. Deb Dib Thing is, it is so NOT about the resume. The resume is the least important deliverable you get with a great resume pro. But its the only tangible you get, and its the only thing most people know. What Deb? The resume is not what its about? I cant find a reference to this (I saw it sometime this week) but I read somewhere about the value of your resume writer (go ahead and disagree). The value is in the process. The value is in what you learn about yourself as you go through the process you will be more prepared for the interview. You will be able to sum up your skills better. Youll realize you thought things are important but really arent and shouldnt be a focus in your interview. The resume creation process could be should be a therapeutic process that gives you much more value than the written document. What if you want to do it yourself? No problem do it yourself. There are lots of resources to help. If you dont get the results you need with your resume then prepare to spend time figuring out why. And make sure to ask where does a resume fits into my job search? I asked John Doe yesterday how he thought the Experiment was going. He replied: Its been interesting. The feedback is welcomed. However, I get a feeling that a lot of the resume writers are giving some pretty standard feedback. It definitely seems templated. I told him Id respond on the blog today, and after sleeping on it heres my response. It does seem templated. Its all stuff you can get out of books, from blogs, from the CareerHub eBook. Its all stuff that we hear time and again. realizing that they didnt really get a chance (or have time) to do in-depth interviews and the normal exercises that they do with their clients, this is what I expected. Notice that thier responses are consistent. And they generally agree with the customer the person who gets the resume the recruiters (and Pete Johnson, who is a hiring manager of techies (he commented on the formatting post)). The funny thing about principles is they always seem like common sense. Like templated, canned answers. But they are true, and violating them will have adverse results. And if the results do seem templated, and they are common sense, then why do people continue to violate the basics? The principles? Good resume writers are experts they know the tricks, the pitfalls, the lingo, whats effective and whats not. I wont do my kitchen sink plumbing (lots of DIY books on that), I wont cut my own hair (many people do) Ill leave that to the experts. Calling in a resume expert, in my opinion, is worth the money. A huge thanks to John Doe for allowing these people to give feedback on his resume. A HUGE thanks to those that commented to challenge ideas, or ask for clarification. The beauty of a blog is that its a discussion, and you have added to the discussion in a meaningful way. A HUGER thanks for the experts that participated, the time they spent on their original input and the comments they left throughout the week. Hopefully this was a meaningful experiment for you, that it helps you now or in the future. Feel free to pass this along to anyone that may be struggling with a job search, underemployment or whatever. Sponsored by JibberJobber whats this about? Click here! The Resume Experiment Series Post I Introduction Post II First Impressions/Reactions Post III Formatting Post IV Content Post V Wrap-Up (thats today folks) The Resume Experiment (5 of 5) â€" The Wrap Up Im trying to figure out how to wrap something like this up! I feel there are so many things that are either unsaid or ignored since we are focusing on one tiny little aspect of career management. So Ill include some brief thoughts here and then see where the comments go. Formatting is important. But dont waste a ton of time on getting it just right. I see that Carl and Louise agree that formatting is not the silver bullet. And my previous comment was, just make sure that it isnt a distraction. Dan Johnson wrote to me yesterday: I think so highly of my finished work my resume and often fail to think of it from a recruiters perspective. Content is critical. How do you wordsmith your resume just right so that it gets the point across in just a few seconds? Most people think they are either (a) really good at describing themselves and their acheivements, or (b) not into the self-promotion fluff stuff. First impressions are unavoidable. Play by the rules. Or dont. I didnt and I didnt get the interviews I needed! So because I chose to not learn what I should have I sacrificed weeks months of income. And the stress built. And the self-doubt built. And the discouragement built. Should you get a resume writer? Obviously it depends on your personal situation. If I could turn back time I would have engaged a writer right away. Here are some thoughts on the subject: In all fairness, the responses from the resume experts were based on bare-bones information. In fact, I had one reply back and say that she couldnt even respond without having an interview with John Doe! And Louise Kursmark sent me a worksheet for John Doe to fill out, which she would follow up with a consultation. Note that the process involved is deeper than pulling out a list of action words and then going to town: Barbara Safani priceless from her most recent post: If you would like to have your own resume critiqued, without having the content on full view to everyone, email me for a free resume assessment (my style is much more like Paula Abdul and I will tell you what is working in your current resume as well as what can be improved). Most people don’t understand the value of hiring a writer†¦ many think that all the writer does is edit the document, fix the grammar, and make it look pretty. Having the recruiter’s â€Å"seal of approval† will bring credibility to the writer’s strategy. But if you have 5 different resumes for the same person and 5 different recruiters reviewing them, you might get 6 different opinions†¦This is the fuzziness of resume writing and this is where things might get confusing. Your readers will be left asking†¦so which way is â€Å"right†Ã¢â‚¬ ¦the better message is that there’s no right on wrong way per say, but there are different strategies job seekers can use to gain the attention of the hiring manager. Brad Attig I’m going to try to help you cut though all the fog and give you some guidelines that I would recommend you consider. Remember that every time someone tells you to turn right, someone else will be there to tell you to turn left, or worse, stop, go, backup†¦.. Wendy Terwelp Writing a resume is more than filling in blanks on a template. The way I write a resume includes an in-depth interview (a minimum of 60 minutes) with the job seeker, a prep guide, then the rewrite (or completely new from scratch) with usually 2 drafts. Our process for resume development and strategy takes many hours to produce. We don’t just â€Å"type up a resume† based on the original as often the original document is missing tons of information. That’s why the interview process with the job seeker is crucial. We help candidates see their rock star qualities, what they bring to the table for a potential employer by asking lots of questions. Why? A rà ©sumà ©Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s first goal is to help a candidate get in the door for an interview. As a former recruiter and current member of staffing associations, I know what employers look for in top candidates – and I know how to interview a candidate to get the achievements, skills, and qualities necessary for a g reat resume. Templates just don’t cut it. Deb Dib Thing is, it is so NOT about the resume. The resume is the least important deliverable you get with a great resume pro. But its the only tangible you get, and its the only thing most people know. What Deb? The resume is not what its about? I cant find a reference to this (I saw it sometime this week) but I read somewhere about the value of your resume writer (go ahead and disagree). The value is in the process. The value is in what you learn about yourself as you go through the process you will be more prepared for the interview. You will be able to sum up your skills better. Youll realize you thought things are important but really arent and shouldnt be a focus in your interview. The resume creation process could be should be a therapeutic process that gives you much more value than the written document. What if you want to do it yourself? No problem do it yourself. There are lots of resources to help. If you dont get the results you need with your resume then prepare to spend time figuring out why. And make sure to ask where does a resume fits into my job search? I asked John Doe yesterday how he thought the Experiment was going. He replied: Its been interesting. The feedback is welcomed. However, I get a feeling that a lot of the resume writers are giving some pretty standard feedback. It definitely seems templated. I told him Id respond on the blog today, and after sleeping on it heres my response. It does seem templated. Its all stuff you can get out of books, from blogs, from the CareerHub eBook. Its all stuff that we hear time and again. realizing that they didnt really get a chance (or have time) to do in-depth interviews and the normal exercises that they do with their clients, this is what I expected. Notice that thier responses are consistent. And they generally agree with the customer the person who gets the resume the recruiters (and Pete Johnson, who is a hiring manager of techies (he commented on the formatting post)). The funny thing about principles is they always seem like common sense. Like templated, canned answers. But they are true, and violating them will have adverse results. And if the results do seem templated, and they are common sense, then why do people continue to violate the basics? The principles? Good resume writers are experts they know the tricks, the pitfalls, the lingo, whats effective and whats not. I wont do my kitchen sink plumbing (lots of DIY books on that), I wont cut my own hair (many people do) Ill leave that to the experts. Calling in a resume expert, in my opinion, is worth the money. A huge thanks to John Doe for allowing these people to give feedback on his resume. A HUGE thanks to those that commented to challenge ideas, or ask for clarification. The beauty of a blog is that its a discussion, and you have added to the discussion in a meaningful way. A HUGER thanks for the experts that participated, the time they spent on their original input and the comments they left throughout the week. Hopefully this was a meaningful experiment for you, that it helps you now or in the future. Feel free to pass this along to anyone that may be struggling with a job search, underemployment or whatever. Sponsored by JibberJobber whats this about? Click here! The Resume Experiment Series Post I Introduction Post II First Impressions/Reactions Post III Formatting Post IV Content Post V Wrap-Up (thats today folks) The Resume Experiment (5 of 5) â€" The Wrap Up Im trying to figure out how to wrap something like this up! I feel there are so many things that are either unsaid or ignored since we are focusing on one tiny little aspect of career management. So Ill include some brief thoughts here and then see where the comments go. Formatting is important. But dont waste a ton of time on getting it just right. I see that Carl and Louise agree that formatting is not the silver bullet. And my previous comment was, just make sure that it isnt a distraction. Dan Johnson wrote to me yesterday: I think so highly of my finished work my resume and often fail to think of it from a recruiters perspective. Content is critical. How do you wordsmith your resume just right so that it gets the point across in just a few seconds? Most people think they are either (a) really good at describing themselves and their acheivements, or (b) not into the self-promotion fluff stuff. First impressions are unavoidable. Play by the rules. Or dont. I didnt and I didnt get the interviews I needed! So because I chose to not learn what I should have I sacrificed weeks months of income. And the stress built. And the self-doubt built. And the discouragement built. Should you get a resume writer? Obviously it depends on your personal situation. If I could turn back time I would have engaged a writer right away. Here are some thoughts on the subject: In all fairness, the responses from the resume experts were based on bare-bones information. In fact, I had one reply back and say that she couldnt even respond without having an interview with John Doe! And Louise Kursmark sent me a worksheet for John Doe to fill out, which she would follow up with a consultation. Note that the process involved is deeper than pulling out a list of action words and then going to town: Barbara Safani priceless from her most recent post: If you would like to have your own resume critiqued, without having the content on full view to everyone, email me for a free resume assessment (my style is much more like Paula Abdul and I will tell you what is working in your current resume as well as what can be improved). Most people don’t understand the value of hiring a writer†¦ many think that all the writer does is edit the document, fix the grammar, and make it look pretty. Having the recruiter’s â€Å"seal of approval† will bring credibility to the writer’s strategy. But if you have 5 different resumes for the same person and 5 different recruiters reviewing them, you might get 6 different opinions†¦This is the fuzziness of resume writing and this is where things might get confusing. Your readers will be left asking†¦so which way is â€Å"right†Ã¢â‚¬ ¦the better message is that there’s no right on wrong way per say, but there are different strategies job seekers can use to gain the attention of the hiring manager. Brad Attig I’m going to try to help you cut though all the fog and give you some guidelines that I would recommend you consider. Remember that every time someone tells you to turn right, someone else will be there to tell you to turn left, or worse, stop, go, backup†¦.. Wendy Terwelp Writing a resume is more than filling in blanks on a template. The way I write a resume includes an in-depth interview (a minimum of 60 minutes) with the job seeker, a prep guide, then the rewrite (or completely new from scratch) with usually 2 drafts. Our process for resume development and strategy takes many hours to produce. We don’t just â€Å"type up a resume† based on the original as often the original document is missing tons of information. That’s why the interview process with the job seeker is crucial. We help candidates see their rock star qualities, what they bring to the table for a potential employer by asking lots of questions. Why? A rà ©sumà ©Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s first goal is to help a candidate get in the door for an interview. As a former recruiter and current member of staffing associations, I know what employers look for in top candidates – and I know how to interview a candidate to get the achievements, skills, and qualities necessary for a g reat resume. Templates just don’t cut it. Deb Dib Thing is, it is so NOT about the resume. The resume is the least important deliverable you get with a great resume pro. But its the only tangible you get, and its the only thing most people know. What Deb? The resume is not what its about? I cant find a reference to this (I saw it sometime this week) but I read somewhere about the value of your resume writer (go ahead and disagree). The value is in the process. The value is in what you learn about yourself as you go through the process you will be more prepared for the interview. You will be able to sum up your skills better. Youll realize you thought things are important but really arent and shouldnt be a focus in your interview. The resume creation process could be should be a therapeutic process that gives you much more value than the written document. What if you want to do it yourself? No problem do it yourself. There are lots of resources to help. If you dont get the results you need with your resume then prepare to spend time figuring out why. And make sure to ask where does a resume fits into my job search? I asked John Doe yesterday how he thought the Experiment was going. He replied: Its been interesting. The feedback is welcomed. However, I get a feeling that a lot of the resume writers are giving some pretty standard feedback. It definitely seems templated. I told him Id respond on the blog today, and after sleeping on it heres my response. It does seem templated. Its all stuff you can get out of books, from blogs, from the CareerHub eBook. Its all stuff that we hear time and again. realizing that they didnt really get a chance (or have time) to do in-depth interviews and the normal exercises that they do with their clients, this is what I expected. Notice that thier responses are consistent. And they generally agree with the customer the person who gets the resume the recruiters (and Pete Johnson, who is a hiring manager of techies (he commented on the formatting post)). The funny thing about principles is they always seem like common sense. Like templated, canned answers. But they are true, and violating them will have adverse results. And if the results do seem templated, and they are common sense, then why do people continue to violate the basics? The principles? Good resume writers are experts they know the tricks, the pitfalls, the lingo, whats effective and whats not. I wont do my kitchen sink plumbing (lots of DIY books on that), I wont cut my own hair (many people do) Ill leave that to the experts. Calling in a resume expert, in my opinion, is worth the money. A huge thanks to John Doe for allowing these people to give feedback on his resume. A HUGE thanks to those that commented to challenge ideas, or ask for clarification. The beauty of a blog is that its a discussion, and you have added to the discussion in a meaningful way. A HUGER thanks for the experts that participated, the time they spent on their original input and the comments they left throughout the week. Hopefully this was a meaningful experiment for you, that it helps you now or in the future. Feel free to pass this along to anyone that may be struggling with a job search, underemployment or whatever. Sponsored by JibberJobber whats this about? Click here! The Resume Experiment Series Post I Introduction Post II First Impressions/Reactions Post III Formatting Post IV Content Post V Wrap-Up (thats today folks) The Resume Experiment (5 of 5) â€" The Wrap Up Im trying to figure out how to wrap something like this up! I feel there are so many things that are either unsaid or ignored since we are focusing on one tiny little aspect of career management. So Ill include some brief thoughts here and then see where the comments go. Formatting is important. But dont waste a ton of time on getting it just right. I see that Carl and Louise agree that formatting is not the silver bullet. And my previous comment was, just make sure that it isnt a distraction. Dan Johnson wrote to me yesterday: I think so highly of my finished work my resume and often fail to think of it from a recruiters perspective. Content is critical. How do you wordsmith your resume just right so that it gets the point across in just a few seconds? Most people think they are either (a) really good at describing themselves and their acheivements, or (b) not into the self-promotion fluff stuff. First impressions are unavoidable. Play by the rules. Or dont. I didnt and I didnt get the interviews I needed! So because I chose to not learn what I should have I sacrificed weeks months of income. And the stress built. And the self-doubt built. And the discouragement built. Should you get a resume writer? Obviously it depends on your personal situation. If I could turn back time I would have engaged a writer right away. Here are some thoughts on the subject: In all fairness, the responses from the resume experts were based on bare-bones information. In fact, I had one reply back and say that she couldnt even respond without having an interview with John Doe! And Louise Kursmark sent me a worksheet for John Doe to fill out, which she would follow up with a consultation. Note that the process involved is deeper than pulling out a list of action words and then going to town: Barbara Safani priceless from her most recent post: If you would like to have your own resume critiqued, without having the content on full view to everyone, email me for a free resume assessment (my style is much more like Paula Abdul and I will tell you what is working in your current resume as well as what can be improved). Most people don’t understand the value of hiring a writer†¦ many think that all the writer does is edit the document, fix the grammar, and make it look pretty. Having the recruiter’s â€Å"seal of approval† will bring credibility to the writer’s strategy. But if you have 5 different resumes for the same person and 5 different recruiters reviewing them, you might get 6 different opinions†¦This is the fuzziness of resume writing and this is where things might get confusing. Your readers will be left asking†¦so which way is â€Å"right†Ã¢â‚¬ ¦the better message is that there’s no right on wrong way per say, but there are different strategies job seekers can use to gain the attention of the hiring manager. Brad Attig I’m going to try to help you cut though all the fog and give you some guidelines that I would recommend you consider. Remember that every time someone tells you to turn right, someone else will be there to tell you to turn left, or worse, stop, go, backup†¦.. Wendy Terwelp Writing a resume is more than filling in blanks on a template. The way I write a resume includes an in-depth interview (a minimum of 60 minutes) with the job seeker, a prep guide, then the rewrite (or completely new from scratch) with usually 2 drafts. Our process for resume development and strategy takes many hours to produce. We don’t just â€Å"type up a resume† based on the original as often the original document is missing tons of information. That’s why the interview process with the job seeker is crucial. We help candidates see their rock star qualities, what they bring to the table for a potential employer by asking lots of questions. Why? A rà ©sumà ©Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s first goal is to help a candidate get in the door for an interview. As a former recruiter and current member of staffing associations, I know what employers look for in top candidates – and I know how to interview a candidate to get the achievements, skills, and qualities necessary for a g reat resume. Templates just don’t cut it. Deb Dib Thing is, it is so NOT about the resume. The resume is the least important deliverable you get with a great resume pro. But its the only tangible you get, and its the only thing most people know. What Deb? The resume is not what its about? I cant find a reference to this (I saw it sometime this week) but I read somewhere about the value of your resume writer (go ahead and disagree). The value is in the process. The value is in what you learn about yourself as you go through the process you will be more prepared for the interview. You will be able to sum up your skills better. Youll realize you thought things are important but really arent and shouldnt be a focus in your interview. The resume creation process could be should be a therapeutic process that gives you much more value than the written document. What if you want to do it yourself? No problem do it yourself. There are lots of resources to help. If you dont get the results you need with your resume then prepare to spend time figuring out why. And make sure to ask where does a resume fits into my job search? I asked John Doe yesterday how he thought the Experiment was going. He replied: Its been interesting. The feedback is welcomed. However, I get a feeling that a lot of the resume writers are giving some pretty standard feedback. It definitely seems templated. I told him Id respond on the blog today, and after sleeping on it heres my response. It does seem templated. Its all stuff you can get out of books, from blogs, from the CareerHub eBook. Its all stuff that we hear time and again. realizing that they didnt really get a chance (or have time) to do in-depth interviews and the normal exercises that they do with their clients, this is what I expected. Notice that thier responses are consistent. And they generally agree with the customer the person who gets the resume the recruiters (and Pete Johnson, who is a hiring manager of techies (he commented on the formatting post)). The funny thing about principles is they always seem like common sense. Like templated, canned answers. But they are true, and violating them will have adverse results. And if the results do seem templated, and they are common sense, then why do people continue to violate the basics? The principles? Good resume writers are experts they know the tricks, the pitfalls, the lingo, whats effective and whats not. I wont do my kitchen sink plumbing (lots of DIY books on that), I wont cut my own hair (many people do) Ill leave that to the experts. Calling in a resume expert, in my opinion, is worth the money. A huge thanks to John Doe for allowing these people to give feedback on his resume. A HUGE thanks to those that commented to challenge ideas, or ask for clarification. The beauty of a blog is that its a discussion, and you have added to the discussion in a meaningful way. A HUGER thanks for the experts that participated, the time they spent on their original input and the comments they left throughout the week. Hopefully this was a meaningful experiment for you, that it helps you now or in the future. Feel free to pass this along to anyone that may be struggling with a job search, underemployment or whatever. Sponsored by JibberJobber whats this about? Click here! The Resume Experiment Series Post I Introduction Post II First Impressions/Reactions Post III Formatting Post IV Content Post V Wrap-Up (thats today folks)